134 Ender 3 Z Axis Not Moving Down

134 Ender 3 Z Axis Not Moving Down. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. Not possible to move down anymore. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.

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Not possible to move down anymore. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. When i power on it moves up and down twice. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad.

After moving it up, i can't move it back down.

In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. The bltouch seems to be working.

When i power on it moves up and down twice. . I had the same problem on an ender 3.

Not possible to move down anymore. When i power on it moves up and down twice. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad... The bltouch seems to be working.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. The bltouch seems to be working. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move... Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having... I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat... But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. The bltouch seems to be working. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. Not possible to move down anymore. When i power on it moves up and down twice. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move... Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. When i power on it moves up and down twice.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. The bltouch seems to be working. I had the same problem on an ender 3. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move... In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat.

If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. When i power on it moves up and down twice. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.

Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. When i power on it moves up and down twice.. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up. Not possible to move down anymore. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. When i power on it moves up and down twice. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move... I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.. But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware.. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. The bltouch seems to be working. I had the same problem on an ender 3. When i power on it moves up and down twice. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having... If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I had the same problem on an ender 3. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up... . I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.

If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. After moving it up, i can't move it back down... If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

When i power on it moves up and down twice. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. Not possible to move down anymore. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.

I had the same problem on an ender 3. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. After moving it up, i can't move it back down.. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. Not possible to move down anymore. When i power on it moves up and down twice. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I had the same problem on an ender 3.. The bltouch seems to be working.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having... When i power on it moves up and down twice.

I had the same problem on an ender 3. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.. Not possible to move down anymore.

I had the same problem on an ender 3... If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. Not possible to move down anymore. I had the same problem on an ender 3. When i power on it moves up and down twice. The bltouch seems to be working. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.

In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. The bltouch seems to be working. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. When i power on it moves up and down twice.. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I had the same problem on an ender 3. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. After moving it up, i can't move it back down.. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

After moving it up, i can't move it back down. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I had the same problem on an ender 3. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. The bltouch seems to be working. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.

Not possible to move down anymore... But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. Not possible to move down anymore. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. The bltouch seems to be working. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

After moving it up, i can't move it back down... In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.. I had the same problem on an ender 3. Not possible to move down anymore. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.

For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad.. Not possible to move down anymore. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.

Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having... I had the same problem on an ender 3.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. Not possible to move down anymore. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. The bltouch seems to be working. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.. Not possible to move down anymore.

I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. Not possible to move down anymore. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.

I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I had the same problem on an ender 3. Not possible to move down anymore. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.

Not possible to move down anymore... In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. Not possible to move down anymore. I had the same problem on an ender 3. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. The bltouch seems to be working. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. After moving it up, i can't move it back down... But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. The bltouch seems to be working. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up.. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. The bltouch seems to be working.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. When i power on it moves up and down twice. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis... I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case... I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. Not possible to move down anymore. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I had the same problem on an ender 3. The bltouch seems to be working. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case... I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware.

I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware... After moving it up, i can't move it back down.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case... I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat.. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.. But i can select a higher number and it will move up.

I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. When i power on it moves up and down twice. I had the same problem on an ender 3. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. Not possible to move down anymore.. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.

When i power on it moves up and down twice. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. Not possible to move down anymore. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.

But i can select a higher number and it will move up. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I had the same problem on an ender 3. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. The bltouch seems to be working. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. Not possible to move down anymore. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis.. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.. Not possible to move down anymore. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. When i power on it moves up and down twice. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. Not possible to move down anymore.

I had the same problem on an ender 3... After moving it up, i can't move it back down.

When i power on it moves up and down twice. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. The bltouch seems to be working. When i power on it moves up and down twice. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. The bltouch seems to be working.

Not possible to move down anymore.. The bltouch seems to be working. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position.

Not possible to move down anymore. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. Not possible to move down anymore. When i power on it moves up and down twice.

Not possible to move down anymore.. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having.. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move.

I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case.. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad. The bltouch seems to be working. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. When i power on it moves up and down twice.

The bltouch seems to be working. But i can select a higher number and it will move up. When i power on it moves up and down twice.

When i power on it moves up and down twice. .. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat.

For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad... If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. In this video, we will show you how to fix one axis does not move when homing, thank you for support, and we will continue to improve, please sub for the lat. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad.. For anyone who may have this problem in the future and do have all the cables plugged in, your end stop could be bad.

If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. I have attached a video i found on youtube that showcases basically the exact same problem i am having. Not possible to move down anymore. If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0.. After moving it up, i can't move it back down.

If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I've installed a bl touch on my ender 3v2 (board 4.2.2) and updated the firmware. After moving it up, i can't move it back down. Not possible to move down anymore. I had the same problem on an ender 3. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. If i use the move and select z axis if i select a lower value and press the button it doesn't move. When i power on it moves up and down twice. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I had the same problem on an ender 3.

If i go to the move menu it shows that the z axis is at 10.0... I've found multiple other posts where people have the same issue but currently there is no resolution for my specific case. I had this problem on my y axis and took me a while to realize the endstop was stuck in a closed loop position. Everything seems to be working fine except my z axis. I had the same problem on an ender 3... Not possible to move down anymore.